I concur with these judgments, Bill. I am still amazed and angry about how Baylor treated you, but I feel nothing compared to what you experienced. Thank you for giving those Scriptures warning of worldliness. We could add 1 John 2:15-17. The accolades of the world meaning nothing in the end. What means everything is "Well done, good and faithful servant."
Also, I'm still amazed and angry not only with Baylor but Mohler and others at SBTS, though I do respect Mohler, but in your case that was...less than ideal.
Dembski is cut from the same cloth as Solzhenitsyn.
By the way, I highly recommend Gary Saul Morson's books Minds Wide Shut: How the New Fundamentalisms Divide Us and Wonder Confronts Certainty: Russian Writers on the Timeless Questions and Why Their Answers Matter.
Dr. Dembski, thank you for this message which is succinct, profound and prophetic. Indeed a warning to all of us who are in danger of falling in love with the worldly realities rather than with the admonitions of our purpose here in this time and space. God bless you in His Name.
✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God’s gift—not from works, so that no one can boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared ahead of time for us to do.
Christian Standard Bible (Eph 2:8–10). (2020). Holman Bible Publishers.
John Ferrer here. It's been a while. But I'm glad to see your writing here.
The post is well stated, and timely. Great music choice at the end too. I just bought that album last week. A lot of folks have missed the forest for the trees here. But you're see the forest . . . burning.
Would you be open to having this article shared at Crossexamined.org? You'd get full credit for it, and we'd include a link back to the original article. It might get this article out to a wider audience. And more people need to hear what you just said.
Hi John. Great to hear from you. I was delighted when I learned that you would be working for Crossexamined.org -- it seemed like a great fit for your interests and talents. Yes, by all means reprint the article (with a link back). We should catch up some time. Blessings!
Great article Bill. I’ve been curious about this book.
I follow Megan Basham on the socials and she’s done interviews with Doug Wilson and Cannon Press.
She said somewhere that evangelicals make up about a third of the voting population, and that the leftist progressives try to undermine them with the tactic of calling people “Christian nationalists”. It honestly seems to me that the left wants to persuade people in the evangelical elite to their side, and then silence and discredit evangelicals lest they be labeled as Christian nationalists.
I have only read portions of the book. One thing that caught my attention was an instance of a church youth group volunteer, who unbeknownst to parents was influencing church youth in an LGBT friendly direction.
(Apologies if this is a duplicate. Your website says my first response did not go through.)
I am Seventh-day Adventist. We are more fundamentalist than the larger Protestant denominations and would have much farther to go before getting deep into the 'woke' ideologies circulating today. I think people tend to leave our denomination completely before they go too far into wokeness. (Websites of former Adventists trying to educate the rest of us seem to be a cottage industry.) Occasionally we'll hear about an Adventist pastor promoting LGBT issues, but those are rare. I recognize that I might be naive about that, and I am in one of the strongly conservative regions for our church (West Virginia), so perhaps news about those things just doesn't permeate here.
I felt sympathy for your description of the conflict between your old-earth beliefs and the Baptist university. I admire whatever wisdom you found that helped you come to a truce in the conflict for at least long enough to move elsewhere.
Thanks for writing. I enjoy the articles you publish, even if sometimes they reach beyond my understanding.
Thank you for this message. I doubt I will read Ms Basham's book, only because my current stack of unread books is so high, but I am glad to know of the issues she describes.
I think my own church and denomination is relatively safe from elitist pressure, but I will certainly watch for it.
I concur with these judgments, Bill. I am still amazed and angry about how Baylor treated you, but I feel nothing compared to what you experienced. Thank you for giving those Scriptures warning of worldliness. We could add 1 John 2:15-17. The accolades of the world meaning nothing in the end. What means everything is "Well done, good and faithful servant."
I couldn't agree more with Prof. Groothuis!
Also, I'm still amazed and angry not only with Baylor but Mohler and others at SBTS, though I do respect Mohler, but in your case that was...less than ideal.
Dembski is cut from the same cloth as Solzhenitsyn.
By the way, I highly recommend Gary Saul Morson's books Minds Wide Shut: How the New Fundamentalisms Divide Us and Wonder Confronts Certainty: Russian Writers on the Timeless Questions and Why Their Answers Matter.
Dr. Dembski, thank you for this message which is succinct, profound and prophetic. Indeed a warning to all of us who are in danger of falling in love with the worldly realities rather than with the admonitions of our purpose here in this time and space. God bless you in His Name.
✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God’s gift—not from works, so that no one can boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared ahead of time for us to do.
Christian Standard Bible (Eph 2:8–10). (2020). Holman Bible Publishers.
John Ferrer here. It's been a while. But I'm glad to see your writing here.
The post is well stated, and timely. Great music choice at the end too. I just bought that album last week. A lot of folks have missed the forest for the trees here. But you're see the forest . . . burning.
Would you be open to having this article shared at Crossexamined.org? You'd get full credit for it, and we'd include a link back to the original article. It might get this article out to a wider audience. And more people need to hear what you just said.
Hi John. Great to hear from you. I was delighted when I learned that you would be working for Crossexamined.org -- it seemed like a great fit for your interests and talents. Yes, by all means reprint the article (with a link back). We should catch up some time. Blessings!
Great article Bill. I’ve been curious about this book.
I follow Megan Basham on the socials and she’s done interviews with Doug Wilson and Cannon Press.
She said somewhere that evangelicals make up about a third of the voting population, and that the leftist progressives try to undermine them with the tactic of calling people “Christian nationalists”. It honestly seems to me that the left wants to persuade people in the evangelical elite to their side, and then silence and discredit evangelicals lest they be labeled as Christian nationalists.
*Canon Press.
Thanks Bill for the ruminations.
Good to know about JDG's reply to Megan's book.
May your words help expand this needed conversation, especially to those dabbling in regressivism, though not yet having drunk the kool-aid.
I have only read portions of the book. One thing that caught my attention was an instance of a church youth group volunteer, who unbeknownst to parents was influencing church youth in an LGBT friendly direction.
Hi Mr Dembski,
(Apologies if this is a duplicate. Your website says my first response did not go through.)
I am Seventh-day Adventist. We are more fundamentalist than the larger Protestant denominations and would have much farther to go before getting deep into the 'woke' ideologies circulating today. I think people tend to leave our denomination completely before they go too far into wokeness. (Websites of former Adventists trying to educate the rest of us seem to be a cottage industry.) Occasionally we'll hear about an Adventist pastor promoting LGBT issues, but those are rare. I recognize that I might be naive about that, and I am in one of the strongly conservative regions for our church (West Virginia), so perhaps news about those things just doesn't permeate here.
I felt sympathy for your description of the conflict between your old-earth beliefs and the Baptist university. I admire whatever wisdom you found that helped you come to a truce in the conflict for at least long enough to move elsewhere.
Thanks for writing. I enjoy the articles you publish, even if sometimes they reach beyond my understanding.
Have a great day!
--- Dennis in Morgantown, WV
Thank you for this message. I doubt I will read Ms Basham's book, only because my current stack of unread books is so high, but I am glad to know of the issues she describes.
I think my own church and denomination is relatively safe from elitist pressure, but I will certainly watch for it.
Thanks Dennis. Out of curiosity, what is your denomination and why do you think it is relatively safe from such pressure?
Even if I am an idiot and pursue irrational “progressivism,” at least I am useful.
Where have I heard the combination of those two words before?